Dodge Ecodiesel Vs Ford Ecoboost

^ What skrypj said.

Until the industry can figure out how to control diesel emissions differently than what they are doing now, so the emission control systems are not so problematic, I would recommend staying away from them. This is why I'm still driving my 2004 Dodge/Cummins dually...rock solid dependable compared to any of the new diesels.

My light hauler - my 2016 F150 3.5 Ecoboost - has been flawless. I will have owned it 5 years next month and all I've done is change the oil and rotate the tires. If you've not driven one of these, or towed with that engine, the low-end torque it puts out is the closest thing to a diesel I've experienced yet in a gas engine. That includes the big-block Fords and GMs I've owned through the years.

Wouldn't an F150 diesel be a better comparison?

I read they're dropping that engine already.

Im in SF bay area. Two neighbors have the 2.7 F150's one tows a small 16ft ski boat. The other one just hauls stuff in the bed. Both say 18mpg around town and 24-26mpg highway averages are typical. I have a 2019 Expedition with the 3.5. The mid to late 2019's did get unannounced tweaks. Like mine when I went to do the first oul change I discovered I had a cast Aluminum oil pan. Earlier 2019 3.5's have a black ABS plastic oil pan. Mine has not had the loud cam phasers yet...

I have the heavy tow pack so 3.73 rear end 16-18mpg local town stuff is typical. Road trips we typically see between 21-23mpg. F150 has a locking rear diff not sure about the dodge.

I like diesel, but my short trips in and around the city would muck up the diesel emissions system bad so no modern diesel for me.

The 3.5 is about as diesel like as you can get with stupid fast gas power. I rarely ever see over 3000rpm it make gobs of grunt between 1800-3000rpm just like a diesel.
The 2.7 is very similar but tuned to run a little hotter its super quick! A 2.7 F150 can just about out run the standard 3.5. Great little engine.
The diesel 1500 dodge has a very small payload of which Ford simply crushes the dodge regarding the payload numbers.

So from a city life and mileage and wanting the full sized interior and pretty good load capability the 2.7 Ecoboost is for sure a top contender. If you have RV towing dreams the 3.5 Ecoboost is the best bet.
As for trailer towing between the two the Ecoboost has the 3L diesel beat on power and grunt. Mileage depends on the trailer aerodynamics the poorer they are the steeper the Ecoboost fuel average nose dives add high speeds and lousy parachute trailer and you can easily push into the 8-9mpg at 70-75mph. Tow a sleeker trailer and your mileage can be as good as mine with my 4x6 20-21mpg or say 12-14mpg with a more boxy trailer.
The Diesel will see less of a mileage nose dive due to lousy aerodynamics than the Ecoboosts.
But for daily life especially short trips the Ecoboosts are way superior especially regarding the emissions systems issues modern diesels hate lots of idling, low speed stuff and short trips they suffer major issues under that sort of use.

When guys say the Ecoboosts are quick. They aren't kidding. The 2.7 will feel like a sports car compared to the dodge. The 3.5 can only be described as being a twofer. Gobs of lazy low RPM grunt for lazy cruising but you give it the beans and it will pull away from pretty much everything except sports cars and high powered sedans.

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I'm inclined to go for the 3.5L over the 2.7L because the difference in mpg is minor but the payoff is nice. I think having the 36 gallon tank on the 3.5L is a must.

395 trips the 36 gallon is very nice. One big negative on the Expedition is the fuel tank size. But I nearly doubled my range just going from a Sequoia to the Expedition

Like CaliCamper said, the 2.7 is a freaking rocket and in Sport mode it's even more fun. Does not act or feel like a truck. I had so much fun in my 2.7. and I did everything from commuting every day, towing a 21 foot ski boat, and hauling 1.5 yards of rocks. My last truck was a lease and I didn't like the fact I was getting a 2.7 over the other options at first but it really was nice and I came to love than engine. Plus, either engine will net you the 10 Speed trans which is fantastic (depending on year) I love my new 5.0 but only have the 6 speed and miss the 10 dearly.

For what you're describing, the 2.7 or the 3.5 will be perfect for you. The 2.7 should be easier to find as they made more of them and will be priced somewhat lower in the aftermarket.

I'm a biased ford guy but I have driven the Ram 1500 and didn't think much of it.

I'm inclined to go for the 3.5L over the 2.7L because the difference in mpg is minor but the payoff is nice. I think having the 36 gallon tank on the 3.5L is a must.

I have the 36 gallon tank in mine and it's a killer at the pump with the ridic CA gas prices, have to swipe my card twice. Usually is around $130. It is nice tho, I can do a full weekend trip to the desert and come home with 1/4 tank plus.

When did the 10-speed start coming equipped on the 3.5L Ecoboost f-150? How much of a price difference do you typically see between the 2.7 and he 3.5 on the used market?

With the 3.5 I believe the 10 speed was avail starting 2017. The other engines pre 18 did not have it. Almost standard on 18+ with a few exceptions.

As far as market value, hard to say given the current rise in prices. The majority of the Lariats and up has the 3.5 so they're more expensive in general. 99% of STX, which is what I have and a great little package will have the 2.7 as they were lease vehicles. When I was looking in July I noticed max of 5k difference but that's probably different now.

Go to a ford dealer and test drive both engines in their used lineup. Best way to get a feel for what you want/need other than us telling you here.

Dodge Ecodiesel Vs Ford Ecoboost

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Dodge Ecodiesel Vs Ford Ecoboost